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September 04, 2008

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Brett

Perceptive piece. Maybe Matt Welch can expose Obama's weaknesses as well as McCain's. You might find yourself right back in the McCain camp. McCain's choice for V.P. has encouraged me that he can make excellent decisions. This is one of them.

Beth McLean

Great read. I totally agree with most of what you said.

Cate

This used to be a beauty blog. I won't be visiting any more since most of the post these days are used for voicing your political views that I neither want to read nor nor care about. Maybe you should change the blog to a political blog so you can get all your crap out there.

Esme

I don't think Sarah Palin is a beauty. Oh, she may be kinda good-looking, but she is a woman who hates women - in my opinion, from what I've read about her so far - and that is never beautiful.

Whilst I wouldn't phrase things the same way Cate did above, I have to agree with her sentiments that if I were looking for political opinion pieces, this wouldn't be the first place I'd look for them!

Being a blog owner myself, I do understand that blogs change with the times, and the interests of the writers, which is all fine and good, and, indeed necessary for the sanity of the correspondents, but this blog has moved some way away from what I loved about it initially, and I'm mainly a disappointed reader these days.

I'm especially disappointed as this was the first beauty blog I ever got really interested in and I've spent many a happy hour digging through the archives in the past. I still log on every day to see what's been written, but this post may just be the last straw for me.

I wish everyone associated with this blog well, but I genuinely think that my days as a dedicated reader are over. Thanks for introducing me to the world of beauty blogs though, you were the original, but to me, you're no longer the best.

Wendy

Stick to the superficiality of makeup; it's what you know best. Palin is a freak, and you're off my blog list.

Janet C

Please continue to blog about beauty, politics, and any other thing. I may not agree or hold the point of view of the bloggers, but that is why this blog is interesting to read.

Carry on!

Kit Stolz

Yes, she was fearless, but what if -- as you hinted -- that fearlessness is part of a not-so-beautiful pattern? What if it goes with a total ruthlessness (for example, enabling aerial hunting, which even hunter-friendly Alaskans have twice rejected by large margins as unfair to animals?) And what if it goes with a complete disdain for the truth?

"Judging from his public statements shortly after he announced Sarah Palin as his running mate, John McCain thought she had opposed the Bridge to Nowhere. She hadn't. He thought she had sold the state's executive jet on eBay and made a profit on it. On both counts, she didn't. He thought she had cut taxes as both mayor and governor. She hadn't. He apparently thought she had fully explained her part in pressuring the state police chief to fire her ex-brother-in-law. She hasn't. He thought she was an enemy of earmarks and federal pork. In fact, she was a pioneer of both. And now Marc Ambinder confirms that Palin is being kept deeply under wraps:

A senior McCain campaign official advises that, despite the gaggle of requests and pressure from the media, Gov. Sarah Palin won't submit to a formal interview anytime soon. She may take some questions from local news entities in Alaska, but until she's ready — and until she's comfortable — which might not be for a long while — the media will have to wait. The campaign believes it can effectively deal with the media's complaints, and their on-the-record response to all this will be: "Sarah Palin needs to spend time with the voters."

The McCain campaign is scared to death. They knew nothing about Palin before they announced her, they relied on a cursory vetting process that has turned out to be shot full of holes, they realize now that she has no settled views on any issue of national importance and could blurt out anything at any time, and they're terrified about what might crop up next. So they're keeping her in the deep freeze.

Will it work? I guess it's possible. If she does one or two friendly interviews it will prevent reporters from saying flatly that she "refuses to meet with the press," and the slightly more complicated explanation may be just complicated enough to keep voters from noticing what's going on. In a way, it's sort of a test of just how gullible the American public really is. Are they actually willing to vote for someone who's afraid to meet with Foreign Affairs, the New York Times, and Meet the Press? Will they accept a tissue-thin excuse about what big meanies they all are? We're about to find out."

I suspect as a reporter you might have a different perspective on a candidate who misled but refused answers questions.

[quoted passage from Kevin Drum at http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2008/09/palin_and_the_press.html]

Maggie

She is in favor of banning books--and tried to fire a librarian who refused to do so.
She is in favor of taking away our right to choose (and don't kid yourself, the agenda here includes birth control as well).
As recently as a month ago, she claimed to have no idea what a vice president's duties were.
She got her first passport a year ago, and knows almost nothing of world affairs at a time when the world is in crisis.

I see no beauty. I see ignorance and small-mindedness given a seat at the table. And I see a nightmare waiting to happen.

Helena Handbasket

Go Hillary! Don't let the commenters get you down: this is a first-rate post.

On the beauty angle, I'd love to know what shade of lipstick she was wearing as she made the now-famous "hockey mom/pitbull" comment at the convention.

Alisha

Perhaps if this post was about Palin's highlights or her lipstick then it would be relevant. I come here to get away from politics which is what I work in all day long. I agree with the poster above that this blog has opened me up to many blogs, and I've enjoyed it thoroughly. But if I wanted a political opinion I'd go somewhere else, and that is what I'll be doing for fun and entertaining beauty reads from now on.

Jackie

You know, I've stopped reading a lot of blogs in my time, but I've never felt that my decision to do so was so significant that I had to leave a stern, admonishing comment for the blog author. What's up with that?

What scares me is the intimation from the commenters that this blog - and women - are only allowed to be one-dimensional. How very conservative.

As the co-creator and co-editor of this blog, I want to go on the record as saying: Any person who feels that they do not wish to read this blog anymore is free to click away. This blog is not written for you.

Jane

Palin believes...

1. Abortion is wrong under all circumstances, including incest and rape.

2. Creationism should be taught in schools.

3. Only abstinence-based sexual education should be permitted.

I agree with you, Palin is likable and seems to exude an everyday, down-to-earth sensibility. But her standing on certain issues are so extreme... and not unlike Bush.

Some of the attacks on Palin are inappropriate (daughter's pregnancy) but that is the nature of politics. The media always feeds off the sensational over substance... and I think most intelligent people can see past the hype surrounding her pregnancy.

Other attacks, such as her involvment w/ troopergate, the fired librarian, the secessionist party... the flip-flopping on the Bridge to Nowhere... that's ALL fair game. As Kit mentioned, McCain's people have been shielding her, but I think it's our fundamental right as voters to know who we are electing into government.

Esme

I just want to make clear that I did actually agree with some of the points that Hillary made in her post.

And I read this blog because I am interested in the points made in it, I don't always agree with the writers, but that's the beauty of it, I don't have to.

But, you know what, readers have opinions too, that's what the comments section is FOR. If you don't want to know what your readers are thinking about what you've written, don't have comments available.

You won't always like what people have to say about what you've posted, but you have comments open for a reason, one assumes. If you only want people to say how much they love you, well, you've gone down in my estimation, Jackie, you really have.

I won't be reading any more, as your misreading of my comments is risible.

Shannon Bach

Thank you Jackie-

A couple of the comments are just out right scary. I consider myself a moderate, but some women to the left of center frighten me more than conservatives.

I disagree with most of Obama's fiscal policy and he is far far left on social issues. However I would never reduce myself to calling him a "freak." So sad that we have come to this.

kady

I am a non scary left leaning female who will not visit this blog anymore. I appreciate my 'right to choose' and as an artist am horrified by Palin's track record of slashing funds to the arts in alaska. Not to mention her wish to teach creationism in schools,
how much science and knowledge of the natural world is needed to make cosmetics? How many of our beloved fashion designers are gay and would be shunned by Palin?

I wish you luck, and I understand this is time when people need to voice their opinions. But I will not visit this blog anymore.

Best, Kady

Mary Spotts

The comments here are indeed scary, because a. this is an exceptionally well-written and original piece, and b. the word beauty is being defined in such a limited way. Carry on, Hillary. Rock your blue eyeshadow and platinum locks AND create these knock-out posts (best thing I've seen written about Palin in any outlet, btw). That's beauty.

Midwest Mom

Hillary,

You have written about a political candidate in a way that neither endorses nor bashes them. I don't understand this and I'm afraid that I won't be able to engage with you at this level of discourse.

Further more, it is wrong of you to try to make me think about politicians as multi-faceted people. What if I discover that the person is interesting, or even likeable, even though I disagree with their politics? This is all too much for me, and I won't be reading this blog anymore.

MM

Jessica

Wow, I had no idea you were so uninformed. Guess I'll stop coming to the blog.

If anyone here actually believes this piece, visit http://www.coupbymemo.com and check out the right-hand column.

Jackie

If you only want people to say how much they love you, well, you've gone down in my estimation, Jackie, you really have.

I have no idea how you arrived at this conclusion, Esme. Please re-read my comment. Really, this blog is not written for anyone but me and Hillary. Anyone who doesn't want to read...well, is free not to read. We're not making money off of this; it's for us. It's our medium.

Indeed, to the contrary of what you suggest, I am thrilled if people hate what we write so much that they continue to read. I have much more time for those people than for the childish sort who throw a tantrum and demand that changes are made to suit their own wishes.

BTW, I think it's worth pointing out that we didn't get these "don't get political" comments when Hillary blogged so adoringly about the artist who supposedly had a bunch of abortions as performance art. (She may or may not have faked them, it later emerged, but Hillary wrote that post based on the assumption that she did indeed have the abortions.) There was plenty of interesting debate, but not babyish demands that we stick to eye shadow. Quite telling.

Again, very conservative reaction from some readers. This is not a conservative blog, so probably not the best place for you if you are seeking a reflection of your own backward attitudes toward women and life.

Juliet

As an Aussie, my only comment from what I have seen in our media is-
Why is it that women in politics tend to sway towards the "ball breaker" ideal. That isn't beautiful in my opinion. Maybe she really is like that and is being true to herself, but it appears that she feels the need to wear this attitude to suceed. Too Sad

mary

How dare you call people who are chastising the author "one-dimensional" and compare them to conservatives?

I'm all for open debate, but come on, this author has no clue what she is talking about. She needs to go educate herself about what a liar, flip-flopper and hypocrite Sarah Palin is, then decide whether she "gets" her. Yes, she's fearless-- she is not afraid to lie to the American people. I'm not sure the author of this post even knows what she means when she talks of Obama's "personality cult," but anything is better than McCain and Palin at this point.

I agree with Jessica-- go to CoupByMemo.com to "get" Palin.

Brett

Jackie - I wish you would stop making reference to the thought police like comments on this post as acting "conservative". Conservatives are far more likely to engage in thoughtful debate and less likely to attack others personally for differences of opinion. Amy Alkon is just now learning how the wrath of "progressives" can come down if one dare disagree.

http://www.advicegoddess.com/archives/2008/08/20/am_i_right_or_w.html#comments

Brett

I went to the above reference blog to "get" Palin. They are trying to get her alright. With rumors, inuendo, and out right lies.

In the interest of fair play; if commenters are going to put out left wing attack blogs as where to learn the "truth" about Palin readers should be skeptical.

This article highlights some of lies going around in order to slander and discredit Palin. The hate filled reaction to Palin just underscores the left's fear of her.

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/09/05/top-7-myths-lies-and-untruths-about-sarah-palin/


Some of lies about Palin in just the last week, many of which were found at Coup by Memo blog, include:

1. The false claim that is really the Grandmother of Trig.

2. The false claim that Palin called Obama Sambo. http://michellemalkin.com/2008/09/06/latest-smear-palin-called-obama-a-sambo/

3. The false claim that Palin wants to teach creationism in schools. Not true. She only wants it to be part of the discussion, the debate. But the left can't stand the thought of alternate viewpoints being discussed here.

The smears and hate speech being leveled at Palin simply underscore the left's inability to take her on over issues.

Ashley

I went to Coup by Memo, too, didn't see anything false or hateful.

I think it's funny that this guy rails against smears and hate speech but then links to Michelle Malkin-- one of the most hateful smear merchants I have ever seen.

To respond to Brett's list of lies:
1. Coup by Memo has nothing about Palin's son, trig.
2. Palin has been heard by a number of people making a number of racist comments. I grew up in a town not even as small as Palin's, and believe me, everyone knows who the racists are.
3. She does want to teach creationism in science classrooms. True, she wants to teach it alongside evolution, but that still doesn't make it fit for science class, since it is simply not science. You can teach about the debate in social studies.

You'll notice that Brett glosses over some of the more important stuff, like the fact that Palin and McCain are lying about her "opposition" to the Bridge to Nowhere and pork barrel spending. Like the fact that she loves big oil. Like the fact that she said the Iraq War is a "task from God."

She is disgusting-- far from any definition of "beautiful."

Brett

I am not glossing over anything. I was highlighting some of the most obvious lies against Palin. The point you make about Palin lying about her recored on opposing the bridge to nowhere may be valid. I need to look into it further as I can't trust the main stream media on anything relating to conservative politics. Some of the other points you make are not valid (ie, in the pocket of big oil). However, I am sensitive to concerns of others regarding the main purpose of this site and do not wish to monopolize the discussion with a long post on topics that can't be resovled with one liners. Although you appear to resolve your points in such a manner.

Ashley, if you wish to discuss some of your false allegations on another site, one geared more toward politics, please let me no and we can form a dialogue there.

I'll leave it alone at that. I do want Hillary to know that I thouroughly enjoyed her insights. And Midwest Mom said it best with grace and humor. This piece was not an endorsement of Palin, simply an observation.

I just don't "get" the vitriolic reaction to Hillary's insightful post.

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